02/27/00 13:15:38 (solder) will leko beat kasparov in linares?
02/27/00 13:16:03 (Darooha) howdy
02/27/00 13:16:05 (solder) hey darooha
02/27/00 13:16:20 (jt) it seems to me what whenever we do a chess chat we should tell the icc in advance
02/27/00 13:16:22 (Darooha) you got some people here...probably mostly from ICC
02/27/00 13:16:30 (solder) i am
02/27/00 13:16:32 (Jon_Speelman) Well leko's got tow chances but I shoulf think it's fair;y unlikely he will
02/27/00 13:16:42 (jt) i vote no - to leko
02/27/00 13:17:05 (solder) some say leko's getting training from fischer. any idea if it's true?
02/27/00 13:17:21 (Jon_Speelman) GK only normally loses less than half a doizewn games a year
02/27/00 13:17:46 (solder) yeah, but if piket can score, why not peter leko?
02/27/00 13:17:59 (jt) good point. but that was quickplay
02/27/00 13:18:10 (solder) he seems to be picking it up lately
02/27/00 13:20:10 (jt) i want to know if chess as we know it is over when the FIDE scam hits the fan this weekend
02/27/00 13:20:27 (solder) when will fedorov get his chance I wonder. Has GM speelman seen the king's Gambit where fedorov beat Adams with a Muzio type sac? what was the postmortem conclusion on that?
02/27/00 13:20:32 (Jon_Speelman) Well htat's a v good and seriosu question
02/27/00 13:20:55 (Jon_Speelman) It depends whether it get's passed by the General assembly of FIDE
02/27/00 13:21:06 (solder) I think fide should be deep sixed. this urine testing stuff is an insult
02/27/00 13:21:32 (Jon_Speelman) And whta peo;lle do about it if that does happen
02/27/00 13:22:00 (Jon_Speelman) I wrote about it in The Independent (in England) on saturday
02/27/00 13:22:02 (jt) it has been a long time since they didnt pass what they want. I think it will almost certainly pass
02/27/00 13:22:11 (Jon_Speelman) But deliberately moderated my views
02/27/00 13:22:13 (jt) what was your take on it
02/27/00 13:22:28 (jt) you dont rave in your column?
02/27/00 13:22:36 (Jon_Speelman) I wasn't v impressed with the Credit Card or the Tournament regs
02/27/00 13:22:42 (Jon_Speelman) But I didn't ranbt
02/27/00 13:22:47 (Jon_Speelman) rant that is
02/27/00 13:23:37 (jt) it seems basically a scam to deposit all money involved in chess into an eastern european bak account
02/27/00 13:23:40 (jt) bank
02/27/00 13:23:40 (solder) the world of chess is finally tasting freedom, and fide wrinkles it's nose
02/27/00 13:24:07 (MSO_Admin) Excuse me, please, Jon - please would you pick up your mobile phone for a moment?
02/27/00 13:24:09 (Jon_Speelman) Some of the stuff about “a) The Organiser(s) or any of their partner(s) or associate(s) have a bad relationship with FIDE or have a bad reputation in the chess world, the world of sports or in the world in general. (or) b) That any commercial rights to exploit these tournaments will be taken out without the express approval of FIDE. “
02/27/00 13:24:24 (Jon_Speelman) Sorry I was just finding it to paste - is extraordinary
02/27/00 13:25:31 (solder) has timman's threat to leave fide had any resonance?
02/27/00 13:25:35 (MSO_Admin) Jon is just getting a copy of his article for further discussion...
02/27/00 13:25:40 (Jon_Speelman) Okay I'll just paste what I wrote for Saturday...
02/27/00 13:26:11 (Jon_Speelman) I wasn't v impressed with the Credit Card or the Tournament regs
02/27/00 13:27:06 (Darooha) anybody here/
02/27/00 13:27:29 (MSO_Admin) Jon is having some technical difficulties, but is still there :-)
02/27/00 13:28:02 (solder) i'm about half here
02/27/00 13:28:21 (Jon_Speelman) Acttaully, I think it's too hard to post it all - but I could ftp it in if you like?
02/27/00 13:28:36 (MSO_Admin) Certainly! We'd be pleased to host it.
02/27/00 13:28:38 (jt) just give us the bottom line
02/27/00 13:28:44 (jt) now i mean
02/27/00 13:29:02 (Jon_Speelman) The bottom line was that
02/27/00 13:29:03 (jt) is ti a scam? what are they up to?
02/27/00 13:29:07 (Jon_Speelman) In the case of a) you wonder according to whom and b) how organisers can approach sponsors at all. While “When any event does not have the approval of FIDE and the organiser still intends to proceed ... (organisations) especially the concerned national federation, shall ...publicise their negative reaction ... and prevent their players from participating.”
02/27/00 13:29:14 (Darooha) wait. lemme catch up on this. FIDE is now doing drug testing?
02/27/00 13:29:23 (Jon_Speelman) Which I wasn't very pro
02/27/00 13:29:54 (jt) drug testing, banking all prize funds around the world and starting their own credit card
02/27/00 13:30:04 (jt) sounds like comedy
02/27/00 13:30:12 (Jon_Speelman) Pess Commissars was a a splendid false enemy of a mistranslation but probably said what was intended too
02/27/00 13:30:28 (Darooha) Right, the crecit card thing I knew was coming...I talked to Tarasov in Las Vegas.
02/27/00 13:30:46 (jt) ooh. what did you think of him?
02/27/00 13:31:09 (Jon_Speelman) Now that FIDE's affiliated to the IOC some Fererations are taking it upon themselves to do drug testing
02/27/00 13:31:15 (Jon_Speelman) Notably the Spaniards
02/27/00 13:31:15 (Darooha) Well, being the president of chessclub.com, I can't really be too frank here
02/27/00 13:32:04 (Jon_Speelman) I bnelieve they tested Illescas's team
02/27/00 13:32:05 (solder) won't ICC come down on the side of freedom? is there any other position?
02/27/00 13:32:40 (MSO_Admin) (Incidentally, we are proud to link to the Internet Chess Club, and are happy to have done so for three weeks since yesterday.)
02/27/00 13:32:42 (jt) maybe darooha can come back under another name - Frank maybe? ;-)
02/27/00 13:32:44 (solder) I'm siding with Timman. there are already enuf cops in the world
02/27/00 13:33:13 (Darooha) of course we will.
02/27/00 13:33:32 (solder) alright then
02/27/00 13:33:37 (Darooha) Great. Thanks for the link
02/27/00 13:34:05 (Darooha) Who is in charge of the MSO. I met him at the deep blue match..but can't remember his name...
02/27/00 13:34:27 (jt) David Levy?
02/27/00 13:34:28 (MSO_Admin) In charge of the MSO are GM Ray Keene, IM David Levy and Tony Buzan.
02/27/00 13:34:42 (Darooha) Right! levy! of course. famous for the computer challenge that he lost I think.
02/27/00 13:34:43 (solder) milwakee symphony orchestra?
02/27/00 13:35:01 (jt) no he won
02/27/00 13:35:02 (MSO_Admin) MSO = Mind Sports Olympiad, who are pleased and proud to be showcasing this chat session. :-)
02/27/00 13:35:09 (solder) oh
02/27/00 13:35:28 (jt) i like that . creativity contest - mso=?
02/27/00 13:35:39 (Darooha) which computer did levy play? did he do it twice? maybe he lost the 2nd time, just like kaspy
02/27/00 13:35:42 (pastpawn) ?
02/27/00 13:35:45 (MSO_Admin) We're very happy to have Jon Speelman here as our star chat guest this evening.
02/27/00 13:35:58 (MSO_Admin) It's all a little less structured than usual tonight.
02/27/00 13:36:00 (jt) i think he won and then got out before they got scary
02/27/00 13:36:12 (MSO_Admin) I think we're happy to take questions from anyone at any time...
02/27/00 13:36:14 (jt) is jon over his tech diffs?
02/27/00 13:36:15 (MSO_Admin) ...so please go ahead!
02/27/00 13:36:22 (Darooha) ok I'm talking to much this is speelman's forum
02/27/00 13:36:32 (Jon_Speelman) I guess I ought to be imoposign soime structure but order has never been my strong suit...
02/27/00 13:36:45 (solder) did speelman go over that fedorov adams game. the king's gambit with the muzio type sac from a couple years back? was it sound?
02/27/00 13:36:49 (jt) have you played in an event with drug testing
02/27/00 13:37:24 (Jon_Speelman) I don't remember the F v Ad game but I've seena lot of his hacking and it looks quite frighteneing unless you're seriosul;y well prpeared
02/27/00 13:37:42 (Jon_Speelman) I haven't - yet - played in an event with drug testing
02/27/00 13:37:51 (solder) perhaps if someone tests positive for something the other competitors should be offered a similar drug no?
02/27/00 13:38:02 (Jon_Speelman) I imagine that my caffeine intake may well fall foul of the righteous...
02/27/00 13:38:15 (Darooha) do chess players take drugs like speed to improve their chess?
02/27/00 13:38:25 (Hercules) no comments. :)
02/27/00 13:38:27 (jt) is there a list of substances that are banned?
02/27/00 13:38:37 (Jon_Speelman) I've never encountered it personally
02/27/00 13:38:37 (Darooha) no, hercules, beer is allowed
02/27/00 13:38:59 (Jon_Speelman) I assume that there's a general list for sport.
02/27/00 13:39:05 (solder) the drugs I recreate with are just that. recreation. who wants to outlaw fun? lotta folks I guess. but why fide?
02/27/00 13:39:08 (pastpawn) What do you all think of the theory that one's maximum rating (after years of play and study) is approximately equal to 10 x your IQ + 1000?
02/27/00 13:39:37 (Jon_Speelman) Of course if you come form the country wehich Hercules is in then you may quite legally take things which will ahve the gentlemen of the IOC foaming at the mouth
02/27/00 13:39:39 (Darooha) ok pastpawn, do you want to know my opinion or only speelman's?
02/27/00 13:40:09 (Jon_Speelman) I'd rather hear Darooha's theories on rating than mine
02/27/00 13:40:11 (pastpawn) Your's and Speelman's
02/27/00 13:40:26 (Darooha) Ok, I'll tell you my opinion anyway. In my experience, there's no correlation between chess rating and any other relevant human skill.
02/27/00 13:40:35 (jt) steroids dont help your chess do they?
02/27/00 13:40:39 (solder) they should hold a tournament in Amsterdam where the first prize is some really good pot.
02/27/00 13:40:50 (Jon_Speelman) Not as far as I know - steroids that is
02/27/00 13:41:18 (pastpawn) Jon_Speelman, what do you think?
02/27/00 13:41:37 (Jon_Speelman) solder's idea is interesting but I suspect that the tournament might fall foul of regualtion b) if it gets passed - Heaven help us
02/27/00 13:41:53 (jt) and caffeine isnt banned for sports - is ti?
02/27/00 13:41:54 (Darooha) some of the GMs, IMs and FMs we've tried to make deals with. Well,.....put it this way, I had an extra bishop and offered a draw..they declined. ...so I kept playing took another rook, offered a draw, still declined, then I mated them. ....this was a business deal.
02/27/00 13:42:11 (Jon_Speelman) I think that Chess Players a re very good at playing chess. Some are intelligent in a more general sense too - but not all
02/27/00 13:42:14 (solder) if fide passes this regulation they're digging their own grave
02/27/00 13:43:33 (Darooha) Jon, do you play much on chessclub.com?
02/27/00 13:43:36 (jt) darooha is saying strong chessplayers have no business sense?
02/27/00 13:43:42 (jt) that is almost certainly true
02/27/00 13:44:11 (Darooha) some do, I'm sure. David Norwood is a GM and big venture capital guy in London.
02/27/00 13:44:14 (Jon_Speelman) Yes I do play at the ICC - as you know - though not under my own name normally
02/27/00 13:44:41 (Darooha) Some don't but I won't get personal.
02/27/00 13:44:42 (Jon_Speelman) A lot of fun hacking around - though certianlky different from "normal" chess
02/27/00 13:44:58 (Darooha) Were you in Las Vegas?
02/27/00 13:45:09 (Jon_Speelman) Yes I got knocked out by Gelfand
02/27/00 13:45:23 (solder) could you tell this small audience whom to follow?
02/27/00 13:45:37 (Jon_Speelman) In what sesne whom to follow?
02/27/00 13:45:44 (solder) on ICC
02/27/00 13:45:58 (solder) the handle to follow for speelmania
02/27/00 13:46:15 (Darooha) I made another announcement about this on ICC
02/27/00 13:46:20 (Jon_Speelman) Oh I see No I generally stay somewhat anonymous at ICC - but I'm on as myself fairly often and perfectly happy to chat with anybody
02/27/00 13:46:25 (MSO_Admin) Thanks very much! :-)
02/27/00 13:46:57 (Darooha) maybe people don't know they don't need a password
02/27/00 13:47:06 (solder) i follow berta alot. he is amazing. hour after hour of great chess. I just like to watch and learn
02/27/00 13:47:16 (jt) who's berta?
02/27/00 13:47:32 (WarHawk) Ulf Andersson
02/27/00 13:47:34 (solder) Ulf Andersson. he's put it in his finger
02/27/00 13:47:38 (jt) yes it is a little confusing, though it does say to just pick a name
02/27/00 13:47:48 (jt) ulf? jeez, everybody is at the icc
02/27/00 13:48:01 (WarHawk) :) ICC rulez
02/27/00 13:48:07 (Jon_Speelman) Ulf Andersson it seems from "fingering" him. I didn't even know that Ulfie had a computer let alone played chess on it
02/27/00 13:48:08 (Darooha) oh no speelmankiller
02/27/00 13:48:12 (solder) he plays 1 e4 every game! never plays it in tourns
02/27/00 13:48:21 (speelmankiller) haha
02/27/00 13:48:30 (Darooha) wow, this site shows youthe IP number of each entering person!
02/27/00 13:48:36 (jt) ulf was a hacker when he was young
02/27/00 13:48:40 (MSO_Admin) Only the first 3/4 of it :-)
02/27/00 13:49:03 (jt) ulf plays online - i played a two game match with him, and that was a couple of years ago
02/27/00 13:49:05 (Jon_Speelman) Ulf plays lots of correspondence chess too - very well - and plays 1e4 then also
02/27/00 13:49:09 (Darooha) ok I announced that they need no password
02/27/00 13:49:13 (solder) he plays 1 e4 and turns every position into an endgame! never plays for mate!
02/27/00 13:49:13 (speelmankiller) well i'm here because darooha announced it :)
02/27/00 13:49:50 (jt) chris gotta make the password thing clearer - now people are pouring in
02/27/00 13:49:57 (solder) he's on now playing tankist
02/27/00 13:50:06 (speelmankiller) jon, do you have any planes for doing a chess video?
02/27/00 13:50:14 (Edwards34) Hey Jon
02/27/00 13:50:17 (speelmankiller) plans that is
02/27/00 13:50:25 (djv) where do we chat with the GM :)
02/27/00 13:50:33 (Jon_Speelman) I've never really thought of doing a chess video tho' I spose it might be fun
02/27/00 13:50:47 * Darooha (Plays Sound: applause.wav) (CLAP CLAP CLAP)
02/27/00 13:50:50 (MSO_Admin) Here's the place for the Jon Speelman chat... and there is more than one GM in the room already!
02/27/00 13:50:51 (djv) jon have any tips for a beginner/ intermediet? :)
02/27/00 13:50:58 (Darooha) it worked!
02/27/00 13:51:11 (Edwards34) Jon how many hours should young people play if they plan of being a master?
02/27/00 13:51:16 (Jon_Speelman) I'm not v good at tips but I guess the old truisms still hold -
02/27/00 13:51:27 * Darooha (Plays Sound: crash.wav) CRASH!
02/27/00 13:51:42 (Jon_Speelman) You should play lots of games against opposition of your own strngth or slightly more
02/27/00 13:51:56 (djv) ok heres an easier one :) what are some of your favourite books
02/27/00 13:52:03 (Jon_Speelman) And I always prefer to study endgames / middlegames rather than openings
02/27/00 13:52:08 (Darooha) oh no blacknessio has not been banned here
02/27/00 13:52:18 (Petorian) Does anyone know GM Gennady Zaitchik?
02/27/00 13:52:23 (Jon_Speelman) Chess book s or real books?
02/27/00 13:52:29 (djv) chess books :)
02/27/00 13:52:34 (hjorth) hi everybody ;)
02/27/00 13:52:53 (solder) BCE is a great book by the way.
02/27/00 13:53:01 (BlackNessio) well hello hello hello
02/27/00 13:53:04 (Jon_Speelman) Am when I was little I had Tal's Best Games - Peter Clarke; and The two volumes of Euwe and Kramer on the Middlegame
02/27/00 13:53:07 (hjorth) how come I am allways giving away pieces? ;(
02/27/00 13:53:12 (WarHawk) Jon, Do Bullet(1 0 games) wreck my chess? Alot of people say they do and don't
02/27/00 13:53:15 (Edwards34) Jon.. how many years did it take for you to become a GM?
02/27/00 13:53:15 (Jon_Speelman) and Larsen's Best Games
02/27/00 13:53:26 (BlackNessio) say hey jon do you play in america a lot?
02/27/00 13:53:34 * Darooha test
02/27/00 13:53:39 * Hercules (Plays Sound: laugh.wav) laugh
02/27/00 13:53:40 (Jon_Speelman) I think bullet chess id fun but v little to do with other types of chess
02/27/00 13:53:51 (hjorth) what is your handle?
02/27/00 13:53:58 * Darooha understands this now....awakward form of "I"
02/27/00 13:54:00 (hjorth) on ICC
02/27/00 13:54:07 (WarHawk) i cool
02/27/00 13:54:08 (hjorth) smiles
02/27/00 13:54:08 (Jon_Speelman) It took me 3 years froim when I became professional to become a GM - iat the end of 1980
02/27/00 13:54:14 (Darooha) 1 0 bullet chess is closer to a video game than to chess
02/27/00 13:54:27 (BlackNessio) hey Jon...do you play in america alot?
02/27/00 13:54:29 (Petorian) Do you know GM Gennady Zaitchik?
02/27/00 13:54:30 (hjorth) laugh
02/27/00 13:54:31 (Edwards34) Jon... did you play non-stop?
02/27/00 13:54:31 (Jon_Speelman) tes Bullet is mouse -control
02/27/00 13:54:51 (Jon_Speelman) No I played quite a bit but not non-stop - it was my job tho'
02/27/00 13:54:57 (djv) is it necessary to hire a coach if your like class C/D player?
02/27/00 13:54:57 (WarHawk) so bullet doesn't really help you become better but it doesn't wreck your chess right?
02/27/00 13:55:14 * Darooha (Plays Sound: bong.wav) *BONG Hercules*
02/27/00 13:55:17 (jacdion) Who will be the next world Champion?
02/27/00 13:55:22 * Hercules (Plays Sound: bark.wav) bark
02/27/00 13:55:22 (Jon_Speelman) I play in the US a certian amount but not v often - I was in Las vegas of course
02/27/00 13:55:32 * Zek (Plays Sound: cuckoo.wav) cuckoo
02/27/00 13:55:35 (WarHawk) Cuckoo
02/27/00 13:55:39 (WarHawk) how do you do that? :)
02/27/00 13:55:40 (BlackNessio) hey DAROOHAHAHA I dare you to ban me now
02/27/00 13:55:47 (solder) how you guys making these sounds???
02/27/00 13:55:56 (Darooha) Im not telling how to do it, all hell will break lose!
02/27/00 13:56:05 (WarHawk) lol
02/27/00 13:56:10 * Hercules (Plays Sound: evillaugh.wav) evillaugh
02/27/00 13:56:13 (Darooha) we don't want bozos like blacknessio doing this
02/27/00 13:56:19 (WarHawk) * evillaugh
02/27/00 13:56:20 (WarHawk) arg
02/27/00 13:56:33 (Petorian) * grr
02/27/00 13:56:36 (pastpawn) What is this Mind Olympics all about?
02/27/00 13:56:39 (djv) i .
02/27/00 13:56:41 (MSO_Admin) We're trying to keep things pretty calm here... please can we get back to questions and answers for Jon Speelman?
02/27/00 13:56:41 (Petorian) * evillaugh
02/27/00 13:56:43 (Jon_Speelman) Good sounds - tho of course you can cahnge the variable so you don't hear them...
02/27/00 13:56:49 * Darooha (Plays Sound: whistle.wav) Judit Polgar!
02/27/00 13:56:56 * djv test
02/27/00 13:56:56 (WarHawk) where?
02/27/00 13:56:56 * Zek (Plays Sound: moo.wav) moo
02/27/00 13:56:59 * Hercules pulls Darooha's nose affectionately
02/27/00 13:57:07 (WarHawk) I moo
02/27/00 13:57:09 (djv) moo
02/27/00 13:57:11 (speelmankiller) do people get you confused with john nunn?
02/27/00 13:57:11 (GoranS) Who is your favourite player in Linares this year??
02/27/00 13:57:17 (Jon_Speelman) In options
02/27/00 13:57:24 (jt) i think these noises should be added to the icc
02/27/00 13:57:46 (Jon_Speelman) In lLinares - well they're all so strong.
02/27/00 13:57:56 (BlackNessio) hey Jon...what do you think a talented junior as myself should do to get better..I am 18 yrs old about 2300 blitz and 2050 elo
02/27/00 13:58:00 (chess4fun) GM Speelman, are you the one reputed to be a master of gambits? If so, could you give briefly the future of King's Gambit at high-level tourneys?
02/27/00 13:58:02 * Hercules (Plays Sound: flush.wav) hides
02/27/00 13:58:08 (WarHawk) sick
02/27/00 13:58:11 (solder) speaking of judit. she seems relatively weak in endings. can't she correct this. her results are really falling off.
02/27/00 13:58:20 (Darooha) speelman are you going to play in the oz.com/chessclub.com qualifier? first prize: trip to iceland to play in blitz tourney, etc
02/27/00 13:58:37 (Jon_Speelman) I doin't think I hacve a favourite amongst them really but the games are splendid to play through - there's a real qualitative difference between top games and average GM games
02/27/00 13:58:39 (jt) trip to iceland is a good prize
02/27/00 13:59:05 (Jon_Speelman) I may well play in it - heard about it today.
02/27/00 13:59:17 (Hercules) too bad that there's a volcanu burping there now
02/27/00 13:59:21 * BlackNessio (Plays Sound: evillaugh.wav) BONK DAROOHAHAHA
02/27/00 13:59:31 (jt) mr speelman made a special pilgrimage to iceland on the day they legalized the sale of beer
02/27/00 13:59:49 (Jon_Speelman) Well you should play blitz for fun BlackNessio but alos try to play some slower chess too
02/27/00 13:59:58 * Hercules (Plays Sound: explosion.wav) lights a match
02/27/00 14:00:28 (Petorian) Do you know GM GENNADY ZAITCHIK?
02/27/00 14:00:38 (BlackNessio) I cant concentrate on lower chess...I get impatient.....ill play th tournaments but the quality of chess isnt as good...I move fast and impulsively
02/27/00 14:00:43 (Jon_Speelman) I must have met him but not v well
02/27/00 14:01:11 (Petorian) WHAT ABOUT IM ROLAND YAKOBASHVILE
02/27/00 14:01:20 (BlackNessio) how you gonna ban me now?? BUA BUA BUA
02/27/00 14:01:29 (solder) does ghallager still play the King's Gambit?
02/27/00 14:01:34 (Jon_Speelman) Never heard
02/27/00 14:01:50 (WarHawk) Jon, is Correspondence chess a good thing? Does that help any?
02/27/00 14:01:53 (Jon_Speelman) Joe sometimes plays it I think - but not always
02/27/00 14:02:05 (Petorian) I USUALLY PLAY KINGS GAMBIT WHATS YOUR OPPINION ABOUT THIS OPENING?
02/27/00 14:02:24 (BlackNessio) oh turn off the caps for Christ's sake
02/27/00 14:02:33 (Jon_Speelman) I don't like the idea of Correspondence chessa t all - onew adjournment was alays quite enough to disrupt my sleep. But some people do.
02/27/00 14:02:48 (Darooha) (This is a nice applet by the way...I just floated it..)
02/27/00 14:02:50 (Jon_Speelman) Of course computers ahve made a big problem for the rule makers
02/27/00 14:03:14 (WarHawk) ok
02/27/00 14:03:19 (solder) I know he used to.He wrote a book. but he seems to have dropped it. Grishuk played a fantastic King's Gambit in the russian championship this year. Did you see that?u
02/27/00 14:03:40 (Jon_Speelman) No I didn'y see the Grischuk game but may look
02/27/00 14:03:56 (Petorian) Jon, I usually play Kings Gambit whats your oppinion about this oppening?
02/27/00 14:04:16 (solder) It's worth seeing. tremendous double edged game with a mating finish!
02/27/00 14:04:20 (Jon_Speelman) I think ther KG is good to pl\y some of the time - v intimidating for some players
02/27/00 14:04:24 (BlackNessio) hey Jon...did you ever reach a wall in how good you got...like were you ever stuck at a certain level and couldn't seem to get any better ?
02/27/00 14:04:52 (Jon_Speelman) But it's a problem if you only play such potentially forcing lines because if you hit a problem then it's hard to avoiud it
02/27/00 14:05:11 (Jon_Speelman) I went through lots of plateaux
02/27/00 14:05:14 (solder) true
02/27/00 14:05:41 (chess4fun) What's your opinion of Smith-Morra Gambit? Some people say it is just throwing away a pawn.
02/27/00 14:05:53 (BlackNessio) how did you get through the plauteaux?? not only with the actual work of getting better but psycologically
02/27/00 14:05:57 (Jon_Speelman) I dunno about the Morra Gambit
02/27/00 14:06:46 (solder) there is a move order that really denies compensation in the morra. see that winning with the morra book for details. it's the Bd7 line
02/27/00 14:07:12 (pastpawn) Jon, what do you think of the Blackmar-Deimer gambit?
02/27/00 14:07:19 (Jon_Speelman) The problem with all forcing lines is that if they don't work then it's v hard to adjust
02/27/00 14:08:03 (BlackNessio) Hey Jon, how did you get through the plateau of not getting any better both with the actual process of getting better anbd psychologically?
02/27/00 14:08:22 (Jon_Speelman) I'm v bad about specific forcing lines. The BD gas always seemd better to me than its reputation
02/27/00 14:09:12 (Jon_Speelman) it's a shame tho that the newsgroup alt.chess.bdg dosn't ever seem to have much about the bdg in it
02/27/00 14:09:56 (solder) if the bdg has a newsgroup there must be one for the king's gambit?
02/27/00 14:10:13 (Jon_Speelman) Dunno - don't think so
02/27/00 14:11:11 (Jon_Speelman) It's not in the list of newsgroups I've got anyway
02/27/00 14:11:11 * Hercules (Plays Sound: scream.wav) screams
02/27/00 14:11:37 (jt) is kasparov going to win linares?
02/27/00 14:11:41 (solder) hey jon. is that swindle you had vs kasp going in your next game collectiion?
02/27/00 14:11:59 * BlackNessio (Plays Sound: cuckoo.wav) cuckoos
02/27/00 14:12:13 * BlackNessio (Plays Sound: laugh.wav) MWAHAHAH
02/27/00 14:12:17 (Jon_Speelman) I spose GK isa favourite but the other guys could win too
02/27/00 14:12:37 (Jon_Speelman) I've swindled GK several times - a lot of fun...
02/27/00 14:12:39 (jt) if you were a betting man - pick the final results table
02/27/00 14:12:49 * Hercules (Plays Sound: splat.wav) steps on BlackNessio
02/27/00 14:12:53 (Jon_Speelman) Good heavens - the final table
02/27/00 14:13:03 (jt) only six places
02/27/00 14:13:20 * BlackNessio (Plays Sound: splat.wav) pimpslaps darooha
02/27/00 14:13:26 (solder) I predict leko wins
02/27/00 14:13:33 (wontoba) cuckoo
02/27/00 14:13:58 (Zek) Will Khalifman recover from recent losses ?
02/27/00 14:14:04 (WarHawk) sound cuckoo
02/27/00 14:14:12 (Jon_Speelman) I think Kh will probably be in the bottom half
02/27/00 14:14:16 (jt) yes, will khalifman recover?
02/27/00 14:14:43 (solder) khalifman will be alone in last place
02/27/00 14:14:50 (jt) thats not going out on a limb
02/27/00 14:15:22 (Hercules) 1 Kasparov, 2 Anand, 3 Kramnik, 4 Shirov, 5 Leko, 6 Khalifman?
02/27/00 14:15:28 (Jon_Speelman) No - I was just trying to see who I'd forgotten in the list - Shirov actuially who I guess is the least preductable
02/27/00 14:15:29 * BlackNessio (Plays Sound: gong.wav) bongs zek for not unbanning him
02/27/00 14:15:38 (WarHawk) What can you learn faster from? Watching GM games or actually playing games?
02/27/00 14:15:56 (wontoba) I bong
02/27/00 14:16:06 (solder) too bad they don't have those big world cup style tourns anymore where everybody gets to play. like rejkyavik a few years ago
02/27/00 14:16:06 (Hercules) no wontoba, you dont :)
02/27/00 14:16:09 (WarHawk) * Bong *
02/27/00 14:16:14 (Jon_Speelman) You should both watch and play - commentary like on the ICC is grat too
02/27/00 14:16:20 (wontoba) Computer: make that bong sound.
02/27/00 14:16:20 (WarHawk) ok
02/27/00 14:16:34 (wontoba) grat?
02/27/00 14:16:43 (WarHawk) grate
02/27/00 14:16:46 (WarHawk) grat?
02/27/00 14:17:05 (Jon_Speelman) Because everybosy - GMs inclded - needs help when observing somebody else's v complex game
02/27/00 14:17:15 (Hercules) Leko might be a surprise there, no?
02/27/00 14:17:53 (Jon_Speelman) I don't know re Leko - he's v v strong but might be v slightly vulnerable against thease top guys
02/27/00 14:18:00 (chess4fun) Do you think gambits are necessary to improve one's game?
02/27/00 14:19:31 (Jon_Speelman) It's important to play gambits at some stage of your chess career - because noyt understanding open games is a seriosu hole -
02/27/00 14:19:55 (Zek) Andd to learn how to play against gambits
02/27/00 14:19:59 (Jon_Speelman) But you certainly don't have to play them your whole career
02/27/00 14:20:14 (Jon_Speelman) yes and against them too
02/27/00 14:21:35 (solder) have you ever tried BERTA's recipe in the svesnikov sicilian? 6... h6 instead of 6... d6?
02/27/00 14:22:04 (Jon_Speelman) I watched Ulf play it in Katrineholm last year
02/27/00 14:22:13 (solder) he does very well on ICC with that move
02/27/00 14:22:18 (Jon_Speelman) (Is there a final e scandiwegians?)
02/27/00 14:22:54 (Jon_Speelman) And he looked quite impressive but I havea nagging feeling thta somebody showed me something quite annoying against it?
02/27/00 14:23:26 (solder) if it's only a nagging feeling it wouldn't win you a game would it?
02/27/00 14:24:02 (Jon_Speelman) No - but since I don't normally play 1 e4 then it isn't essential that it be in the forefront of my brain betweentimes...
02/27/00 14:24:38 (solder) yah. Ulf gets his king on e7 and the game plays itself...
02/27/00 14:25:28 (solder) he got vaska(L. Christiansen) on ICC with it the other nite
02/27/00 14:25:59 (jt) hrll
02/27/00 14:26:17 (jt) hello?
02/27/00 14:26:26 (Hercules) hi!
02/27/00 14:26:29 (solder) jon, will you ever take up 1 e4? aren't you missing out on a lot of fun?
02/27/00 14:26:44 (jt) i became invisible for a while there
02/27/00 14:27:25 (Jon_Speelman) I play 1 e4 on the ICC sometimes - or rather often - and at other blitz. But you get used to waht you do at "classical" chess
02/27/00 14:29:12 (MSO_Admin) Who would like to be the next to ask Jon a question, please?
02/27/00 14:29:39 (yoips) I have a question
02/27/00 14:29:47 (MSO_Admin) Please go ahead, yoips
02/27/00 14:30:32 (yoips) Go is very popular in Japan, China and Korea...they even tv stations devoted to it. How can Chess have the same coverage in the West?
02/27/00 14:31:37 (Jon_Speelman) as the number of different channels increases - of course there are a huge number in the US already and a burgeoning number in Europe
02/27/00 14:31:45 (Jon_Speelman) then I guess ther'll be more room
02/27/00 14:32:23 (solder) ICC functios as a sort of chess TV channel already
02/27/00 14:32:31 (Jon_Speelman) But Western TV companies tend at a minimum to demand action either visual/physical like snooker or
02/27/00 14:32:51 (Jon_Speelman) or emotional excitement
02/27/00 14:33:03 (yoips) it seems to me in Asia, they repect Mind sports (ie. Chess, Go) more than they do in North America (where I'm from)
02/27/00 14:33:11 (Jon_Speelman) And it's quite hard - tho far from impossible - to present chess in this way
02/27/00 14:33:18 (yoips) agreed
02/27/00 14:33:46 (Jon_Speelman) I'm interested in any other ideas re this from the other people here?
02/27/00 14:34:16 (WarHawk) ICC has a TV chess channel?
02/27/00 14:34:31 (MSO_Admin) Of the chess TV shows you've taken part in so far, Jon, which was your favourite?
02/27/00 14:34:50 (MSO_Admin) I recall you were on the (UK) Channel 4 coverage of Kasparov-Short in '93.
02/27/00 14:36:04 (MSO_Admin) Are you OK there, Jon?
02/27/00 14:36:08 (Jon_Speelman) Sorry - got lost copying the address for somebosy
02/27/00 14:36:13 (chess4fun) Does it seem possible that the future chess games at the highest level will be less exciting? I mean mostly proceeding along the known lines, say until move 50.
02/27/00 14:36:21 (Jon_Speelman) My favourite chess TV show?
02/27/00 14:36:51 (Jon_Speelman) Well of course the Channel 4 coverage of Short v Kasaprov was v interesting
02/27/00 14:37:29 (MSO_Admin) Who's the best TV chess commentator that you've ever seen or heard?
02/27/00 14:37:55 (Jon_Speelman) That's v difficult because it depends in which way.
02/27/00 14:38:30 (MSO_Admin) In terms of making world championship standard chess accessible to the general audience?
02/27/00 14:39:31 (Jon_Speelman) Probably to get a mass audience you need to "dumb down" a bt - but I don't like excessive simplification
02/27/00 14:40:19 (GlynO) hi
02/27/00 14:40:31 (MSO_Admin) We're talking chess on TV here, Glyn...
02/27/00 14:40:31 (GlynO) hi john im the one from icc---
02/27/00 14:40:59 (MSO_Admin) Jon, is the solution to aim TV chess coverage at a reasonably high level?
02/27/00 14:41:02 (GlynO) i think there should be lots more chess on tv-- especially british p[layer
02/27/00 14:41:39 (Jon_Speelman) The main thing I think is to try to convey the intense emotional excitement of the proceedings
02/27/00 14:42:06 (Jon_Speelman) You also need some sort of meta-commentary about what's going on generally
02/27/00 14:42:11 (Zek) What do you think of the webcam at Wijk aan Zee and the video at the Karpov - Bacrot match ?
02/27/00 14:42:19 (Jon_Speelman) And a more specific commentary fro stronger players
02/27/00 14:42:28 (MSO_Admin) If you were competing in a televised chess match, would you mind people following you behind the scenes?
02/27/00 14:42:52 (Jon_Speelman) If they can do different cam,era angles for football now then the same could be done for chess I imagine
02/27/00 14:43:29 (Jon_Speelman) i haven't seen the bacrot v Karpov webcam - must be fun in the scrables in the qucikplay ion particuar I imagine
02/27/00 14:43:31 (GlynO) john, i think a good idea would be to put teenage chess on --- focus more on the up and coming generation of chess players like my self!!! it would promote lots of teenage attention----- I STARTED A CLUB AT MY SCHOOL AND THERE IS 30 -50 PLAYERS NOW
02/27/00 14:44:07 (Jon_Speelman) I don't think people want to be followed behind the scenes beyond a certain poiunt - you need your own private space
02/27/00 14:44:20 (GlynO) JOHN are you thinkking of hosting your own programme?
02/27/00 14:44:46 (Jon_Speelman) I thadn't occurred to me at all tho' of course it wqould be fun to do TV stuff again
02/27/00 14:45:03 (GlynO) john you could do teenage chess players but look behind he scenes with us because we wont mind
02/27/00 14:45:03 (MSO_Admin) Well done on the efforts at your school, Glyn! Jon, which young players are you particularly looking forward to following the progress of?
02/27/00 14:45:42 (Jon_Speelman) I watch them come up and think generally how amazingly good they are compared to my lot at the same age...
02/27/00 14:45:58 (GlynO) john id be happy to do a TV thing with you:) although my BCF strength is only like 165 and im 16
02/27/00 14:46:11 (Jon_Speelman) Obviously in England I'm waching Murugan and David Howell most of all at the mo
02/27/00 14:46:32 (GlynO) i beat murugan john is his name thriculvan?
02/27/00 14:46:39 (Jon_Speelman) And I work with Luke McShane from time to time. But he's already a strong established player...
02/27/00 14:46:58 (GlynO) do you train john i may be interested
02/27/00 14:47:12 (MSO_Admin) Murugan Thiruchelvam, I believe... and he has been sponsored by the MSO to the tune of $20,000 for teaching expenses this year!
02/27/00 14:47:26 (GlynO) who is the MSO?
02/27/00 14:47:35 (Jon_Speelman) I only train v occasionally the v best players. I worked a little with Michael Adams when he was young
02/27/00 14:47:43 (MSO_Admin) MSO are us... the Mind Sports Olympiad.
02/27/00 14:47:54 (Jon_Speelman) I thought he was already at least as good as me at everythign but certain endings
02/27/00 14:48:08 (MSO_Admin) The people who are behind this whole chat session and who are pleased and proud to promote our star guest chat session with Jon Speelman!
02/27/00 14:48:11 (GlynO) tell MSO-admin would you consider sponsoring me??
02/27/00 14:48:25 (MSO_Admin) You'd have to discuss that with the Mind Sports directors...
02/27/00 14:48:45 (MSO_Admin) ...a win at the Mind Sports Olympiad events at Alexandra Palace would be a good start.
02/27/00 14:49:01 (GlynO) where is alexandra palace
02/27/00 14:49:11 (MSO_Admin) The fourth Mind Sports Olympiad is taking place at Alexandra Palace, London between 19th and 28th August this year.
02/27/00 14:49:23 (GlynO) how much is it to enter?
02/27/00 14:49:29 (GlynO) and what sections are there?
02/27/00 14:49:30 (MSO_Admin) Jon Speelman was a medal-winner in our top chess event, the inaugural MSO Masters last year, and we hope he will enter again.
02/27/00 14:49:46 (MSO_Admin) Further details about MSO events will be announced closer to the time - hopefully within four weeks or so.
02/27/00 14:49:50 (GlynO) what are the sections there?
02/27/00 14:50:05 (GlynO) do they have an under 18's?
02/27/00 14:50:06 (MSO_Admin) We'll let you know when we know - keep following our web site for more details!
02/27/00 14:50:10 (Jon_Speelman) Unless there's a bad clash with some v strong event I imagine I will
02/27/00 14:50:18 (MSO_Admin) Great!
02/27/00 14:50:25 (GlynO) john where do you live?
02/27/00 14:50:36 (GlynO) roughlt in englnad
02/27/00 14:50:38 (Jon_Speelman) London
02/27/00 14:50:52 (MSO_Admin) Jon, which events are you particularly looking forward to playing in later on this year?
02/27/00 14:50:54 (GlynO) oh-- I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU FOR A LIFT DOWN THERE
02/27/00 14:50:59 (GlynO) :)
02/27/00 14:51:31 (Jon_Speelman) Well I've got Southend / Red Bus
02/27/00 14:51:47 (MSO_Admin) Quite handy for a Demon Internet subscriber :-)
02/27/00 14:52:00 (GlynO) john do you happen to know any masters who live near stoke who will be going?
02/27/00 14:52:28 (GlynO) I NEED A LIFT DOWN THERE
02/27/00 14:53:09 (GlynO) JOHN--- after seeing one of your games with the modern ive beeen brainwashed i cant stop playing it
02/27/00 14:53:15 (Jon_Speelman) Probably Lippstadt in Germany in July. The olympiad if FIDE's still in one piece...
02/27/00 14:53:52 (MSO_Admin) Do you enjoy playing as part of a team more, less or just the same as playing for yourself only?
02/27/00 14:54:21 (Jon_Speelman) It's different - you have to be more careful to avoid risks but its v nice to cooperate
02/27/00 14:55:18 (GlynO) john do you know any PEOPLE FROM STOKE WHO WOULD BE WILLING DO GIVE ME A LIFT?
02/27/00 14:55:42 (MSO_Admin) OK, no need to shout - please don't type in all capital letters. Thank you!
02/27/00 14:55:56 (GlynO) ok but do you john??
02/27/00 14:56:09 (Jon_Speelman) No
02/27/00 14:56:17 (GlynO) ok
02/27/00 14:56:28 (GlynO) over how many days is this competition?
02/27/00 14:56:28 (MSO_Admin) Let's take a different tack. Jon, do you play any other mind sports?
02/27/00 14:56:56 (MSO_Admin) There will be a number of different competitions, Glyn; please keep following our web site at http://www.msoworld.com/ for more details.
02/27/00 14:56:58 (GlynO) i play bridge and am amazing at drafts :)
02/27/00 14:57:05 (GlynO) hehe
02/27/00 14:57:28 (Jon_Speelman) I play scrabble - but only good kitchen standard / bridge ditto
02/27/00 14:57:36 (Jon_Speelman) do lots of crosswords
02/27/00 14:58:02 (GlynO) john can you recommend a book which will help me to improve?
02/27/00 14:58:13 (MSO_Admin) You, famously, once reached the final of The Times crossword competition, didn't you, Jon?
02/27/00 14:58:21 (Jon_Speelman) But I don't play other games to a v high standard like say Julian Hodgson
02/27/00 15:01:33 (GlynO) I have a 156 iq do you think id get in MENSA?? i ve always wanted to join?
02/27/00 15:02:08 (GlynO) ?
02/27/00 15:02:54 (MSO_Admin) Only one way to find out, Glyn - apply!
02/27/00 15:03:05 (GlynO) .ok
02/27/00 15:03:18 (MSO_Admin) We're very grateful indeed to Jon Speelman for agreeing to be our star guest tonight...
02/27/00 15:03:31 (GlynO) john are you going to do the simul at the UK challenge this year?
02/27/00 15:03:49 (Jon_Speelman) It's been a pleasure to chat here.
02/27/00 15:03:49 (MSO_Admin) ...but time is limited and Jon is a busy man so we shall probably start to draw this to a close.
02/27/00 15:03:51 (MSO_Admin) We'll make Glyn's question there the last one of the night, I think.
02/27/00 15:04:02 (GlynO) ok
02/27/00 15:04:06 (Jon_Speelman) (re the Basman simul I donb't know yet)
02/27/00 15:04:14 (GlynO) ok
02/27/00 15:04:18 (MSO_Admin) Jon, many thanks for taking the time and trouble to be our star guest.
02/27/00 15:04:26 (GlynO) THANK YOU JOHN!!!!!!!
02/27/00 15:04:30 (MSO_Admin) We've enjoyed your thoughts and company very much indeed!
02/27/00 15:04:34 (Jon_Speelman) As I said it weasa pleasure and v intersting.
02/27/00 15:04:44 (MSO_Admin) We're glad that you enjoyed it.
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02/27/00 15:05:16 (GlynO) last question???
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02/27/00 15:05:35 (MSO_Admin) Sorry, Glyn; Jon has a life outside the Internet, so we must draw it to a close there.
02/27/00 15:05:38 (GlynO) whats going on with this KLUB KASPAROV?
02/27/00 15:05:44 (GlynO) ok
02/27/00 15:05:49 (MSO_Admin) I'm afraid I don't know.
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